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Blackman compares the different approaches that she takes to music, dependent on the style that she is playing, “The goal for me is to be able to make the music change and grow, and to be able to converse with the other musicians. You want to bring the music alive with the textures and colors that you add (when playing jazz), whereas in a rock situation you have to keep that backbeat happening, keep it dancing, and feeling good the whole time. If I am playing jazz, I want to have that music feeling great, but now I can expand and add other ideas. A common goal for me with all music is that it should feel good. In jazz music, I expand on top of that feeling.”
As one would expect, Blackman’s technique varies depending on the type of music that she is playing. “For sure it is a totally different headspace. When I am playing with Lenny, it is completely different, because the whole concepts and the goals of the band are different. The way that I hit the drums is different, because (she chuckles) I hit them really hard. Although I hit them hard, I need to be able to get a sound of the kit without choking it. You need to know how to match the physical strength that is (required), with the need to still get a good sound of your instrument. When I am playing in more of a creative situation (referring to jazz), I have more of a love affair with texture, and with a variety of soft and strong playing. All of the subtleties and nuances are used. I play little things here and there, some of which you may pick up, because they are audible, and others are just for the feel.”
Blackman compares rock drummers with their jazz counterparts, “Some drummers don’t go back and forth. Some drummers, who play rock, don’t have the slightest idea of what it takes to be a jazz drummer, and some jazz drummers don’t have the slightest idea of what it takes to be a rock drummer. I will say however, that because of the requirements for playing jazz, a jazz drummer who wants to play rock, could probably play rock easier, than a rock drummer who wants to play jazz. When you play jazz drums, you have to have more facility, and there is more required of you. There are a lot of things that you need to know (in terms of time signatures and formations). When you play rock drums you can play it in a three-note style or play it as 2/4, (she imitates the sound of her sticks hitting the drums and cymbals). You will work (as a rock drummer), make a ton of money, and you do not need to know other things, but in jazz there is a lot more required of you as a drummer.”
Cindy Blackman has become a master drummer in both the world of jazz and rock music, but if you were to ask her, I bet she would say she still has much to learn, and so many more colors and textures that she wants to explore. For young drummers, she could not be a more perfect role model, as someone who continually strives for excellence, while remaining respectful of her past, and those who have helped her attain the career that she enjoys today. When you talk to her, she doesn’t dwell on her accomplishments, but instead remains focused on the music. She is fun and sincere. If you are an aspiring drummer and you are looking for a mentor, look no further, for Cindy Blackman is the only name that you need to know.
Interview by Joe Montague
March 2008
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